Pain in soles of feet

I'll try the site one more time. I see & feel the support all around me and I am grateful for the universality & understanding, the welcomes and birthday gifts...

I can't seem to figure out how to start a chat today but have started at least three chats that don't get responded to, similar to the three discussions. I know it must be me because as I said, the site has exudes so much positive and supportive energy.

I am not on any other social networking sites so it may be an "operator" problem but I have not had any specific help for what afflicts my son. I am going to try again....

Does anyone have constant pain in the soles of their feet? Not burning, not numbness, but sharp, slicing pain? Our son has chiari, celiac, anemia, and vitamin deficiencies so we are trying to ascertain what the cause of the feet pain is...one of the diagnoses he already has, or are we missing something. Like many of you, he is afflicted with many, many more symptoms but the pain in the soles of the feet is the most bothersome, on very level (he also gets pain around the whole foot, both feet, including a feeling that his shoelaces are tied to tight--with bare feet--and that someone is then strumming the laces, that are tied too tight). Thanks.

Hi Mom,

Severe foot pain is possible with Chiarians. It's usually Neuropathy & can be incredibly painful. Please contact your son's Neurosurgeon or Doctor that is managing his care.It can be treated. I have a close friend with Celiac Disease. Does your son have Celiacs or are you just cutting gluten out of his diet in hopes that will reduce his pain? You might also want to cut out night shade vegetables & dairy. Almond & rice milk to me is better than soy milk. My daughter was very sick for 3 years and her Rheumatologist sent her to am Oriental Medicine Specialist. She had acupuncture treatments , nutritional counseling for a year.Luckily she was finally correctly diagnosed with a Thoracic Kyphosis(kinda like scoliosis). Has your son ever had a MRI of his Thoracic & Lumbar Spine? You might want to ask his Dr's about that just to rule out a syrinx. I really don't think Anemia would be causing this severe of foot pain. If your sons Hemoglobin was that low, he would be hospitalized right now & have huge dark circles under his eyes & be listless.

Since all Moderators are Volunteers we do not have someone always on & available for chats. When I am on I always answer chats while I am working. People usually only chat first thing in the morning & late at night. We have International Members, so people are on at different times.

I hope to talk to you soon,

Tracy Z.

Beeba,

Anemia in women is very common. The accepted normal Hemoglobin is 10-12. Anytime it is 10 or a little lower they tell you to eat red meat& green vegetables to increase your iron naturally. Sometimes I even have to take iron supplements. I did quickly research CM & Anemia. Everything I read showed no connection between CM & Anemia. Call and ask your Dr's asst for your Hemoglobin Level. My Mother is a retired Hematologist, So I have an expert at the touch of the phone. It is worth checking on because there are other reasons we get anemia that I will discuss with you privately. Just remember Anemia is easily treated & many woman are having the same issue. Also have you had your vitamin D level checked??? That usually is really low in women also. I take Vitamin D3 supplements daily.

Hello everyone and thank you so much. I hope I can answer everyone. I figured that about the chats, I myself forget to go back to check sometimes, and I figured it was hit or miss. Also, Beeba you are so right. I myself refrained from responding to a parent of a child with chiari for the same reasons, just afraid to give information that could be potentially more harmful and also because fo the difficulty Gavin has had. We have a Care Pages that my sister set up and so many people helping us with prayer and the emotional support but it's the crux of it, the medical stuff I was seeking here. It's just such a bear to treat and every case is different and every dctor has a different slant.

After receiving the positive genetic test for celiac (not the antibodies) we eliminated gluten and took him to the Celiac Center at Columbia. She said he is definitely gluten intolerant but without an endoscopy, could not make an official dx of celiac. She said it would be impossible to determine what caused the severe neuropathy and inability to walk but advised us to keep on doing what we were doing...neurontin nerve pain cream (topical), mobic 1x a day (oral), physical therapy 2-3x a week, vitamin D-1,000IU per day, gluten elimination, meditation, prayer, tai chi, and glasses to correct stigmatism that showed up as an abnormal VEP response. and of course, time. Time to heal. The neurologist wants Gavin to have IV venofor to treat his low ferritin and rbc issues but hematologist and pediatrician think otc iron but neurologist thinks he can't absorb and it's not iron, it's storage? He just had more blookdwork last week so we'll see.. Tracy, we've heard not so great things about soy too, he can not tolerate milk so we recently switched to 2% organic lactose free milk.

Emmaline, thank you too, we are considering the Paleo diet as we have a friend with MS (when the neurologist first met Gavin, he said he was presenting with MS symptomatology). He has skin issues too and yes bruises around his eyes and on his back and body at times. The barometri pressure and physical exertion or the common cld can exacerbate symptoms but when his cheeks get red or he gets these odd red bumps with pain, I wonder if we're not missing something else. We think it was a perfect storm of recovering from his second brain surgery in less than once calendar year and a cerebral spinal fluid leak, triggering an auto-immune response but who can really say?

Gavin's first surgery was dural scoring and shaving of C-3 andC-2 and removal of C-1. His 2nd surgery was duraplasty with bovine pericardium which resulted in a csf leak and two psuedomeningoceles, tonisilar reduction, more bony removal because it grew back, and removal of scar tissue that the ns said was like the consistency of bone. Ns said he knew what Gavin was feeling because "the chiari was huge! (23mm) and there was so much scar tissue. Before his 2nd surgery, he had complex sleep apnea and would stop breathing even in the middle of the day, we would wake him in the night to take a breath. He crawled because his feet hurt so much. His neck felt like he was being strangled, or someone was pressing on it, all the time. He still has central sleep apnea but thank goodness the obstructive is better. A different ns said because so much bone was removed to make room in the back, and his brain stem is very near to a 90 degree angle (they call it ventricular compression ann basilar invagination), and he has a Grabb angle measurement of almost 10mm, with 8+ considered abnormal, they recommended occipital-cervial fusion surgery, takign bone from his hip-6-12 month recovery). We said to ns, show us one 6-8 year old, with leg pain and/or nerve pain, who had the fusion and is out of pain and can walk, and then sign us up, but they could not. They told us we would be negligent no to get the surgery but thank the other things came up.

Overall we are grateful, and consider it a success. Gavin says if he did not have pain, he would have another chalenge because everyone has to have something they are challenged with. It is such an invisible disability though. If I had a dollar for every time someone says to us, "he looks great!"

God bless you all. Get a good night's sleep, eat as healthy as you can for your body, limit your triggers, and focus on everything you have to be grateful for. I'm sorry for your pain and for Gavin's.

I am sorry that you have had a frustrating experience here. I agree with everything the other wonderful ladies have said. As far as the foot pain is concerned ruling out a syrinx was my first thought. There is a cream that may help it's a Homeopathic cream for leg craps but I have had good luck with it elsewhere as well. It's called Hylands Leg Cramp Ointment. It has wintergreen in it and is also warming. Another thing that I do when I have had foot pain over the years is take a golf ball and roll it around under my foot, for me the counter pressure feels good.

I hope you find some answers for your son and I hope you continue to participate in the group.

Here's a link to the cream wt/ reviews

http://www.hylands.com/products/legcrampsointment.php

Beeba,

I gave you the wrong numbers for a normal Hemoglobin. It is actually 12-14 for women over 30 years old. (not 10-12). It's also different for men & women. My Mother also pointed out to me the norm is age specific.

TracyZ said:

Beeba,

Anemia in women is very common. The accepted normal Hemoglobin is 10-12. Anytime it is 10 or a little lower they tell you to eat red meat& green vegetables to increase your iron naturally. Sometimes I even have to take iron supplements. I did quickly research CM & Anemia. Everything I read showed no connection between CM & Anemia. Call and ask your Dr's asst for your Hemoglobin Level. My Mother is a retired Hematologist, So I have an expert at the touch of the phone. It is worth checking on because there are other reasons we get anemia that I will discuss with you privately. Just remember Anemia is easily treated & many woman are having the same issue. Also have you had your vitamin D level checked??? That usually is really low in women also. I take Vitamin D3 supplements daily.

Wendy,

Thank you so very much for a wonderful product review. Your knowledge amazes me. My greatest find is Tiger Balm... :-)


wendyanne said:

I am sorry that you have had a frustrating experience here. I agree with everything the other wonderful ladies have said. As far as the foot pain is concerned ruling out a syrinx was my first thought. There is a cream that may help it's a Homeopathic cream for leg craps but I have had good luck with it elsewhere as well. It's called Hylands Leg Cramp Ointment. It has wintergreen in it and is also warming. Another thing that I do when I have had foot pain over the years is take a golf ball and roll it around under my foot, for me the counter pressure feels good.

I hope you find some answers for your son and I hope you continue to participate in the group.

Here's a link to the cream wt/ reviews

http://www.hylands.com/products/legcrampsointment.php

I had alot of pain in the bottom of my feet for about 7 or 8 months prior to decompression surgery. No one could ever determine if it was because of ACM, but it was gone immediately following surgery. Good luck to you.

Tracy,

Thank you so much. That really means alot coming from you. Your knowledge amazes me.

Tiger balm is great the only thing is it has camphor in it and should never be mixed with or even near homeopathic remedys. The camphor ruines them and it's an antedote for the remedies you take by mouth. Camphor Menthol MInt are all too strong for the delicate homeopathic formulas but camphor is the stongest.

Wendy

TracyZ said:

Wendy,

Thank you so very much for a wonderful product review. Your knowledge amazes me. My greatest find is Tiger Balm... :-)


wendyanne said:

I am sorry that you have had a frustrating experience here. I agree with everything the other wonderful ladies have said. As far as the foot pain is concerned ruling out a syrinx was my first thought. There is a cream that may help it's a Homeopathic cream for leg craps but I have had good luck with it elsewhere as well. It's called Hylands Leg Cramp Ointment. It has wintergreen in it and is also warming. Another thing that I do when I have had foot pain over the years is take a golf ball and roll it around under my foot, for me the counter pressure feels good.

I hope you find some answers for your son and I hope you continue to participate in the group.

Here's a link to the cream wt/ reviews

http://www.hylands.com/products/legcrampsointment.php

Wendyanne, thank you for the recommendation of the Hyland’s Leg Cramps. I ordered a 3-pack and have been using it on Gavin’s spine, which gives him some comfort. He has a huge aversion to swallowing (from prior to his surgeries)and creams of any sort but the fact that he pulls up his shirt for me to apply it tells me it helps some. We use it on his feet sometimes but primarily we are using the garabentin cream 2-3x per day. We found out he is also low in vitamin E, which we read can cause extreme peripheral neuropathy in children. He had a PT eval in school and I don’t know what the guy was thinking because he did not cosult his strict physical restrictions by neuro and ns, his current physical therapist, or us and had him doing all sorts of resricted things. Any exertion gives him more pain than his daily but this ended him at home on the couch, missing school for three days. We are going to try Paleo(thank you Emmaline) and almond and rice milk, and eliminating night shade veggies (thank you Tracy). I knwo he needs to eliminate dairy as well, it is coming to us in many ways but will be difficult as we’ve finally found gluten free foods he an eat & cheese is a favorite and the dairy free kind aren’t palatable to him. As for the syrinx, the ns we initially consulted noted a “pre-syrinx state,” the ns who did both surgeries said no, and even if there were it woudl be resolved with decompression. When I search for spine pain and soles of feet pain a lyme blogger comes up, and Gavin sadly had that too and it took 4 blood tests to show positive (before tehy woudl treat)because he also had consurrent mono (which he was hospitalzed for-infected lymph node) which could have skewed the results even though we pulled a few stubborn deer ticks from him. Lyme is another webste & conversation altogether. Beeba, thank you for your insight. I think you are spot on when it comes to not wanting to misguide when it comes to children. We hit that wall with one pediatrician after the next, they are almost afraid of the ns patient. Everyone’s replies after my “cry for help” were very supportive and comforting. Gavin handles everythgin better than the rest of us. HE says mama, if I didn’t have pain, I would just have to have somethign else, because everyone has to have somethign in their life that is a challenge, and I can handle pain, because I’m just used to it. Beeba, as for Dr. Trumble, did you mean to make an appointment for Gavin with him or does he field questions somehow? Thank you all. God bless you, have mercy on you. Mostly grateful, Regina

I feel so bad for your little guy. He must be an amazing kid. My son has Type 1 Diabetes and I know how that makes me feel. You just want to take all their hurt and problems away. Your son could benefit from seeing a qualified Homeopath that would address his whole health and recomend remedies to help his own bodies immune system start to heal some of his issues. It won’t change structural things like Chiari but it could help him fight off some of the side effects of his issues. It’s gentle but very powerful. If you are interested I have a way to look up qualified homeopaths near you. I know there is a lot of skeptisism with Homeopathy and some people believe it works as a placebo. I know that’s not true because we have used it for 15yrs and my kids had ear infections, strep throat and all the childhood illnesses and they have never had antibiotics. We have a pediatrician that is a Homeopath and he’s a God send. Homeopthy points your bodies immune system in the right direction and helps it kick in your natural healing ability. If your interested send a friend request (I can’t for some reason) and we can talk further and I can send you some information to read about Homeopathy if you want. I wish you the best with your son no matter what you decide to do and I hope he feels better soon. You are in my prayers.

Thank you Wendyanne, I’m not on FB if that’s what you meant about a friend request but my direct e-mail is ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■. I am so sorry for your sweet son, I can’t imagine ever getting used to seeing your child have to inject or use a pump for his survival, lt alone all the other implications. I whole heartedly believe in homeopathic. We have many blessings, like a great neurologist, but a good pediatrician, let alone an open minded one, eludes us. My nephew, who also has chiari, has neurofibromatosis (NF2) and just a few months ago was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I learned celiac and diabetes share a gene or something like that. I wonder about chiari, especialy when my son wakes up in the night for water, and guzzles it all day. However, the ns said with his brain stem compression almost 90 degrees), or the psueodomeningoceles, or something, I honestly don’t remember, but my husnad heard the ns say hydration helps sushion the area and helps with csf so maybe it’s just a natural thing to want to hydrate : ) (I know bed rest, caffeine, and water helped when he had the csf leak, but this was something different.

Mom,

I'm not on FB either. You can sign up to be friends on this site. If you go to my page on the left hand side you can send the request. I have a glitch with mine that I have sent too many as a Moderator. Lots of us that have Chiari have a constant thirst. We can keep in touch either way. I would have already sent you a message if I could have.

Wendy

Hi there! Hopefully posting discussions will get you some more info. I have intermittent pain in my feet, but it is mostly the soles. For years I attributed this to psoriatic arthritis but now realize i think it is more a Chiari symptom. They check my potassium levels and they are normal, but I have sharp pains and muscle spasms in both feet.

Emily

Has he been checked for tethered cord? That is often seen with chairi and can cause a great deal of foot pain/numbness