# After surgery .... Help!

**URL:** <https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 14, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196 "2013-10-14T20:42:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Danielle1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/danielle1/32/1760_2.png) [@Danielle1](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Danielle1)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/21 "2013-10-15T17:40:31Z")

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I didn’t get a duraplasty. could that have any reason why my symptoms are returning?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Trumble](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/dr_trumble/32/1122_2.png) [@Dr\_Trumble](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Dr_Trumble)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/22 "2013-10-15T17:58:49Z")

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Could be. One way many people assess anatomical improvement after surgery is a cine MRI. In my practice, if flow is still obstructed on cine MRI after decompression, I discuss the possiblity of re-operation. If flow is good, I recommend medical management(neurology). That is not cut and dried but that is the best science we have on Chiari currently. Certainly, if the dura was not opened, the position of the cerebellar tonsils will not change(again, unless you do something else, e.g. ventriculo-peritoneal shunt).

I generally quote a 60% success rate in symptom reduction without duraplasty, 80% with(in appropriate patients, e.g. classic symptoms, reduced flow on MRI, failure of medical management, etc). To my knowledge, there is no literature in terms of symptom recurrence based on dural opening.

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**Author:** ![Danielle1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/danielle1/32/1760_2.png) [@Danielle1](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Danielle1)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/23 "2013-10-15T18:10:57Z")

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if something was wrong with my csf flow how is that resolved? … if it’s because the dura wasn’t opened, will I probably need more surgery?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Trumble](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/dr_trumble/32/1122_2.png) [@Dr\_Trumble](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Dr_Trumble)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/24 "2013-10-15T18:11:51Z")

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Yes, if CSF flow is not restored, repeat operation is usually recommended.

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**Author:** ![Danielle1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/danielle1/32/1760_2.png) [@Danielle1](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Danielle1)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/25 "2013-10-15T18:16:00Z")

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thanks for all the help. still really nervous. but at least I know a couple things I can maybe expect now. if I told you my symptoms could you maybe get an idea of if you think it’s csf or something else? my symptoms are

headache -back/top/behind eyes  
nausea  
incision burning feeling  
neck pain  
back pain  
back spasms - lower left side  
arm pain/numbness  
leg pain/numbness/weakness  
dizziness/off balance  
right side facial pain  
drooling a lot  
ringing in the ears

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Trumble](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/dr_trumble/32/1122_2.png) [@Dr\_Trumble](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Dr_Trumble)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/26 "2013-10-15T18:21:11Z")

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If you review Chiari symptoms, so many things can be caused by Chiari that it becomes difficult to tell.

Could many of those symptoms be caused by Chiari? Yes. Are they in your case? I don't know.

It is certainly time to go back to the treating MD and discuss your symptoms. You may want to ask about a cine MRI prior to your visit, as they may want to get it before seeing you to save some running around. Some MDs don't use cine MRIs, in which case I would suggest asking if they feel any other tests are appropriate prior to your visit.

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**Author:** ![Danielle1](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.chiarisupport.org/danielle1/32/1760_2.png) [@Danielle1](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/u/Danielle1)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.chiarisupport.org/t/after-surgery-help/4196/27 "2013-10-15T18:23:01Z")

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when I emailed my surgeon last month he said te symptoms are nothing to worry about and no imaging was needed.

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